Packers much better in 19-7 win over Rams
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Eddie Lacy chimed in with Larry McCarren after the game.
McCarthy in postgame interview w/Larry McCarren:
"We were more productive at the quarterback position, but we still have to put the ball in the end zone."
On Crosby/Tavecchio: "I thought both those guys took a step forward. We needed them to."
"Johnny's (Jolly) so instinctive. I don't know where the hell he got that spin move...He's getting better each week."
"Micah's (Hyde) really made a number of plays two weeks in a row...anytime a big play goes against them, how do they respond? I like the way he responded."
10:15 p.m. Packers' 4th Drive :59
Stoneburner with the onside kick recovery. McCarthy's got the headset off.
10:03 p.m. Rams' 4th Drive 2:26
Green Bay 19, St. Louis 7
Davis-Johnson TD pass
Cutaway on the Packers TV network: Rodgers with the 'stache and stubble. Nice.
Scrub time and the Packers' defense is getting gashed. Not too worried for the team. More defenders getting worried about their jobs.
Two minute drive reaches one minute and the red zone...and a wide open Johnson burns Brandon Smith. Horrible coverage.
Tough night for Brandon Smith, who is still learning how to play CB.— Rob Demovsky (@RobDemovsky) August 18, 2013
10:00 p.m. Packers' 3rd Drive 3:28
Hughes at left tackle and he let his defender absolutely OWN him.
Pease with a catch out of the backfield and Ray-Ray Armstrong strong-tackled him with a mighty collision.
9:55 p.m. Rams' 3rd Drive 5:56
Uh oh. Johnson left open by the Packers' 3rd & 4th stringers. The kind of play that ends your career in camp. Johnson had no one on him. Someone missed an assignment.
Boyd and Palmer OWN the Rams' front five protection. They stood the navy-shirted guys up.
4th-14, GB 38: Again, Micah Hyde! This time, against scrubs and he tipped the pass. Near pick by Means, but it's 4th down.
9:52 p.m. Packers' 2nd Drive 7:30
Blitz pickup failed Coleman on 3rd down and a bad throw. Still 7-11 for 82 yards.
9:49 p.m. Rams' 2nd Drive 8:46
Terrell Manning with a Johnny Jolly tip after his blitz was picked up. Head's up play by the front seven.
9:28 p.m. Packers' 1st Drive 13:55 in 4th quarter
Green Bay 19, St. Louis 0
Coleman-Stoneburner 9 yd TD pass
Welcome to the 4th quarter preseason regression— Jeff Falconio (@Jeff_Falconio) August 18, 2013
Starks shows great persistence after getting stuffed up the middle, but gotta keep the hands on the ball. Rams recovered, and wrongly ruled down by contact.
Can't fumble and make the team in a crowded backfield, James. Might be costly...fumbles drive Mac out of his mind.— Doug Russell (@RussellOnSports) August 18, 2013
Lucky that the Ram who recovered had stepped out of bounds. Packers keep the ball...Starks slipping in the effort to keep his job.
Darn good throw by Coleman to Tyrone Walker. Coleman knows he has an opening for a job still.
Best throw by a #Packers back-up QB yet. Coleman to Tyrone Walker for 15 yards on a line.— Tyler Dunne (@TyDunne) August 18, 2013
Uh oh. Flaggage.
Interesting question by Wayne: do they keep a fullback on the roster? Larry: "John Kuhn...so many different levels, as far as 3rd down...blocking...hard to say godbye too."
3rd-20 - make that 4th-6 after a heck of a screen with Alex Green. He can scoot in open field.
And they go for it in a nothing-to-lose preseason game: Gillett tackled by Wooddard at the point of the catch. Well, admittedly, a bit of an acting job, too.
Coleman! You must throw the ball low when going over the middle. That tipped pass was nearly a pick.
Watching BJ Coleman is tough.— John (@jrehor) August 18, 2013
John, my guy and a great Packers coverage contributor, not when rocketing a throw to Myles White over the middle after stepping up and buying time.
WOW! Stoneburner with a fantastic catch on a heck of a rifle throw from Coleman. First TD of the preseason.
It looks like BJ Coleman has been watching @AaronRodgers12! What a throw...— Omar Shaikh (@OmarSurg) August 18, 2013
That pass was very Favre-esque. Chucking it, and got lucky with a TD— John (@jrehor) August 18, 2013
9:25 p.m. Rams' 1st Drive continued from 3rd quarter
Gash of the Packers' rush 3, drop 8 back in prevent defense, but not enough for a first down, thankfully.
9:19 p.m. Rams' 4th Drive :28 left in quarter
Almost. Powell had a fantastic chance at a pick - a spectacular pick, even though Nixon interfered with his receiver, the ball was uncatchable. Good no call.
HYDE! Great job on the blitz. If Charles Woodson is the filet mignon of corner blitzes, Micah Hyde's a good burger.
Welcome to the 53, Micah Hyde— Kelly (@ceallaigh_k) August 18, 2013
That Micah Hyde is physical. Takes Clemens down for a loss of eight. Closes fast on the blitz.— Tyler Dunne (@TyDunne) August 18, 2013
9:14 p.m. Packers' 3rd Drive 4:02
Starks in at running back. Young in the crosshairs of pressure.
Important drive for Young. His only chance to make roster is as #2 QB, and he's losing that battle tonight so far.— Doug Russell (@RussellOnSports) August 18, 2013
Vince Young threw to Gillett like I once did as a five-year-old. Still a catch. Not boding well.
3rd down and a Young bootleg for a first...but we know he can do that. Can he throw consistently.
Dink and dump. Dink and dump. Young is being careful and smart. That's OK for a backup QB in the NFL.
3rd-2: Nope. Overthrown deep again.
Has Vince Young "officially" moved ahead of Harrell on the unofficial depth chart? Maybe? Possibly? Probably?— John (@jrehor) August 18, 2013
9:09 p.m. Rams' 3rd Drive 5:06
Rams are being dominated tonight. 1-9 on 3rd down so far. Make that 1-10 after Clemens throws it off his receiver's face mask. Good blitzing.
Blitzburgh 2.0 this year? That would be fun. Scary-but fun— John (@jrehor) August 18, 2013
Congrats to the Rams' special teams, making Vince Young and company go 99 yards. Unavoidable good play by St. Louis.
Sometimes you just have to tip your cap... Well played by StL— Doug Russell (@RussellOnSports) August 18, 2013
9:04 p.m. Packers' 2nd Drive 6:41
A fast third down and short - Young does not do his job as he forces one into double coverage. That won't win you a No. 2 QB job.
VY throwing into double coverage isn't going to help him when Mac grades the tape.— Doug Russell (@RussellOnSports) August 18, 2013
By the way, Rams fans are pathetic, even for preseason. 30,000 at this game, maybe. And you wonder why they could theoretically move to L.A. or London.
8:55 p.m. Rams' 2nd Drive 11:23
Mulumba! Big rush underneath the pads of the right tackle, as Larry McCarren so accurately described, and he owned Clements. He can be something.
Quick with a 20-yard reception gashes the Packers' scrub secondary. I shouldn't say scrubs. They're better than all but maybe 200 in the world at what they do.
Jolly stuffed a Rams running back, but really didn't get the tackle. Whistles blew, but the Rams' guy's knee was NOT down. That could have been a 70 yard TD run.
The drive ends with Jolly owning his guy and forcing an incompletion. Great series. Jolly wants this job.
Jolly showing some speed!— Kelly (@ceallaigh_k) August 18, 2013
Uh oh. Brandon Smith failed to get out of the way of the ball. He was trying to block his guy, and he never paid attention to where the ball was. It hit him. Rams get it.
Know where the ball is at all times. Rule 1.
3rd-goal at STL 5: PICK!!! JOLLY!!!!!!! HE OWNS THIS SERIES! A pick and a TFL from a defensive tackle. Not bad.
Are you kidding me Johnny Jolly??— Doug Russell (@RussellOnSports) August 18, 2013
Big man running with the football!— Jeff Falconio (@Jeff_Falconio) August 18, 2013
Oh my goodness— Greg Matzek (@gmatzek) August 18, 2013
Of course, Kellen Clemens throws a ball directly into Johnny Jolly's gut— Wes Hodkiewicz (@WesHod) August 18, 2013
@JJolly97 has so made this team.— John (@jrehor) August 18, 2013
@TundraVision I so want a Jolly jersey— Kelly (@ceallaigh_k) August 18, 2013
Why is there such huge emotion for Johnny Jolly? Think about his story.
8:49 p.m. Packers' 1st Drive 13:37
Green Bay 12, St. Louis 0
Crosby 30 yd FG
Vince Young had White WIDE OPEN in the end zone and threw it to Arkansas.
Larry McCarren: "That thing was there, folks. It was there."
Alex Green then shows Lacy doesn't have the only after-contact burst. 13 yards after being stopped eight yards from the line of scrimmage.
2nd chance at the end zone - and Myles White with a great catch in traffic, but on the big white line in the back of the end zone.
His right knee was down on the line. Son, you gotta tippy-toe that one. Don't let your knee down.
I think it would have been worth reviewing that pass in the end zone to Myles White, but that's just me.— Brian Carriveau (@BrianCarriveau) August 18, 2013
3rd-11 at STL 18 - White with the catch and zero chance for first down.
Crosby time. THAT ball was tipped...but Crosby's leg is strong enough.
8:46 p.m. Rams' 1st Drive 15:00 left in 3rd quarter
With the wind behind him...not really...Tavecchio shows he has PLENTY of leg for kickoffs, at least once in a while.
3rd-3 deep in Rams territory: Tippage...Jarrett Bush with the catch and Jolly with the tipped pass. As he was pushing, he saw Clements pass coming and volleyballed it up.
Johnny Jolly with an '08 flashback. Bats the ball, Jarrett Bush is there for the interception to start the second half. Vince Young is in.— Tyler Dunne (@TyDunne) August 18, 2013
8:25 p.m. Packers' 4th Drive :35
Harrell is taking some chances, and hitting some accurate throws in tight spaces. Not doing too bad.
Good choice to throw to Williams outside and get a first down PLUS out of bounds. That's how you do the job in the two-minute offense.
Uh oh. Bakhtiari with a false start. He IS human. Remember: he's a rookie, and NOT a first round draft pick.
"Pressure" field goal time. Time for Tavecchio - 38 yards. Yep. Good from 55.
Gramati...I mean Tavecchio good from 38— Greg Matzek (@gmatzek) August 18, 2013
8:22 p.m. Rams' 3rd Drive 1:00 left in 2nd quarter
So far, the Packers have given up just 19 yards rushing in this first half. Not bad. Defend the pass OK and this defense could be something.
Not too bad on the punt return by Hyde to go "ole!" against tacklers.
8:14 p.m. Packers' 3rd Drive 3:01 left in 2nd quarter
Franklin going inside on the run - not his expected forte.
Harrell with the best run of the second teamers so far. Great scramble along the side. He's running as often as you expect Vince Young to do.
3rd down-1: Harrell with a low incompletion. Better that than high.
4th-1 at STL 47: Bad snap...has to scramble. His legs do the job again...but Lane Taylor with the block to the back which drew 15 yards. Puntin' time.
Can't judge Harrell much on this game, except for that one bad throw which didn't count.
Harrell not getting a lot if help tonight. #Packers— Greg Matzek (@gmatzek) August 18, 2013
8:03 p.m. Rams' 2nd Drive 7:29 left in 2nd quarter
Moses and Hyde both lose on YAC battles in the open field against Pead of the Rams. First down which never should have been.
Next play, though, McMillan showed he can stuff the run.
Blitz gets burned. Cook burns Jennings, then slams into a TV sound guy. Would love to have heard that TV call, but we get Wayne and Larry here in the Packers Radio Network studios.
Now in near-field goal territory, Hyde stays with Austin. This is the 5th round or so against Austin, and Hyde wins as the nickelback in the slot.
Hyde is really athletic and has a nose for the ball. I just think his lack of speed in 1on1 coverage is going to kill him at CB.— Doug Russell (@RussellOnSports) August 18, 2013
Austin can make catches in seams of zones when he can't reach first down markers. That's just what happened on 3rd down.
Greg the leg! 0-2. Wow. If the Leg needs competition, maybe the loser of the Packers' kicking battle gets that job instead.
7:58 p.m. Packers' 2nd Drive 9:33 left in 2nd quarter
Aaron Rodgers' night is done. 10-12, 134 yards. Not bad, except the drives didn't end in touchdowns.
Loved what I saw from Rodgers, Finley, Jones, and Lacy.— Doug Russell (@RussellOnSports) August 18, 2013
Mixed up O-Line for Harrell. Bakhtiari, Newhouse are the tackles. Van Roten at center.— Tyler Dunne (@TyDunne) August 18, 2013
Okay, Graham, here's the deal, Aaron's going to run out to the mailbox. he'll be back in 5. Try not to burn the place down while he's gone.— Kelly (@ceallaigh_k) August 18, 2013
First play by Harrell: a pick. Forced into area near three defenders. Pass interference vs. Rams, but it doesn't absolve Harrell in the QB battle. The ball was thrown too high. A low throw and at worst, it's an incompletion.
2nd throw - drop by Williams.
That one is on Williams. NFL player makes that catch.— Doug Russell (@RussellOnSports) August 18, 2013
3rd-8 at GB 42: That time, near three defenders, but laser throw to Bostick did the job. Phew.
"That was a gutsy throw by Graham Harrell." - Larry McCarren
3rd-6 at STL 41: nope, thanks to a jailbreak allowed by the Packers' O-line.
Remember, Harrell had a very good week of practice, as did Coleman. #FWIW— Doug Russell (@RussellOnSports) August 18, 2013
7:50 p.m. Rams' 1st Drive 11:02 left in 2nd quarter
Tavecchio's kickoff to the 1 yard line. Good if you get Francois sending blockers into returners like that time, but you'd prefer touchbacks every time, or more often like Crosby can give you.
Three series of No. 1 QB's facing No. 1 defenses. Packers win that battle with a 3-and-out.
Ross with a pretty solid return early on before Pointer slams him down.
7:40 p.m. Packers' 1st Drive continued from 1st quarter
Packers 6, Rams 0
Crosby 49 yd FG
Play action...and Lacy with the catch and another "circle button spin move" (Wayne Larrivee's quote)
More play action and Finley with a huge gain! YAC. Montana-era 49ers-style YAC.
Finley playing at much higher level, but it's only August, will he play like this during the regular season?— Jeff Falconio (@Jeff_Falconio) August 18, 2013
The Bama Bowling Ball just does not go down at contact without a fight, and he will usually add a yard or two to the gain. Did it again.
3rd-5 at STL 21: Sack time. Robert Quinn forces a long field goal for Crosby. He beat Bakhtiari. His first real malfeasance of the preseason.
Crosby now leads Tavecchio, 2-0 in the field goal make department.
Another failed third down - Quinn beats Bakhtiari inside for a sack. But Crosby hits from 48. Ball was solidly struck with very little curve— Rob Demovsky (@RobDemovsky) August 18, 2013
7:36 p.m. Packers' 3rd Drive 1:23 left in 1st quarter
97 yards from paydirt. Don't go play action deep and show a future opponent what you might want to do later this year.
Rodgers will get a third series. Barclay returns to RT. Eddie Lacy at RB.— Tyler Dunne (@TyDunne) August 18, 2013
Bakhtiari not a fantastic run blocker tonight so far.
Jones! Maybe you need to join Finley in donating cash for every drop. Yes, the throw was high, but will you accept blame for a pass through your hands?
3rd down - that was not an issue. Jones made the catch, thrown right between the eight and the nine.
7:30 p.m. Rams' 2nd Drive 4:13 left in 1st quarter
That was almost a touchdown given up by Micah Hyde. Givens took the cushion Hyde gave him and went four yards from paydirt.
Hyde giveth.........— Doug Russell (@RussellOnSports) August 18, 2013
The ups and downs of a rookie. Hyde gets beat deep by one of the better deep threats in NFC for 57 yards. Has good instincts but lacks speed— Greg Matzek (@gmatzek) August 18, 2013
Three yards from paydirt...Austin was wide open. Hyde was in East St. Louis on pass coverage, and Bradford just missed him.
Second time, Austin was blanketed. Open field tackle by Hyde. Short memory, I guess.
3rd-goal at GB 2: Hyde among four Packers saying a big loud NO to the Rams running game getting into the end zone. Raji stacked up the blocking.
4th-goal at GB 1: Muff!! Not as embarassing as the Sanchez butt fumble, but the same result. Packers hold. Huge confidence builder.
7:25 p.m. Packers' 2nd Drive 6:10 left in quarter
Rodgers still in.
Boykin shows some YAC! More than double his yardage on an explosive play.
Either the Rams are a poor tackling team (unlike the Jeff Fisher mentality) or the Packers have some first-team spunk when getting to the second level.
Boykin isn't known for his speed but he's tougher than a two dollar steak. Hangs in there to roll out of a pair of tackles for 26 yard gain— Wes Hodkiewicz (@WesHod) August 18, 2013
Uh oh. Finley comes off the field holding his right hand.
3rd-1 at STL 28: Lacy. Smashmouth. He got smashed the first time tonight.
Tavecchio misses his first attempt. Far left. Crosby leads the game battle 1-0.
7:17 p.m. Rams' 1st Drive 10:12 left in quarter
Sam Bradford wasn't so spectacular last year...this could be a big career-deciting year for him. If the Rams get blocking like they did on the Packers' left side on Nick Perry, they'll gash people like crazy.
Must stop the run, people, in order to help you stop the pass on defense.
Hawk gets burned badly by RIchardson in pass coverage. Great play design by the Rams to completely clear out the Packers' left flank and get the back out of the backfield.
Just like Lombardi used to say: "There's the backs divide, and brother is that open. You'll never see anything in your life more open than that."
Micah Hyde! THAT time the Packers stuff the run. Unblocked as he ran up before the snap.
That was Woodson-esque Micah. Nice.— William (@MiltownBucky) August 18, 2013
4th-5 at GB 38: Nope. Burnett OWNED Austin after the catch.
I wonder why the Packers extended Morgan Burnett's contract?— lombardiave.com (@lombardiave) August 18, 2013
4th & 5...preseason mentality!— Jeff Falconio (@Jeff_Falconio) August 18, 2013
7:07 p.m. Packers' 1st Drive 15:00 left in quarter
Packers 3, Rams 0
Crosby 34 yd FG
Greg "the Leg" Zurlein is your Rams kickoff guy. Love the name. He proves it, kicking the ball to Davenport, Iowa to start the game.
Play action...Finley actually makes a catch! No drops there, then get him into the open field and it's rumble, young man rumble. Tacklers strewn across the field.
Same thing with Eddie Lacy and what Wayne Larrivee calls the "circle button spin move." More than double the gain after the first hit.
Eddy Lacy is a grown man. Two carries, 22 yards, 5 broken tackles by my count.— Dan Koob (@DanKoob) August 18, 2013
Packers offense is in rhythm. Just what you want to see.
In the red zone on 3rd down: Lacy around the end...the Bama Bowling Ball is slamming Rams, but he got the help from holding by Finley.
"But again, Rock, you get a look at what Lacy brings to the party." - Wayne Larrivee.
Mason Crosby makes round one of the preseason kicking contest with Giorgio Tavecchio.
Mason Crosby getting the first field-goal attempt tonight. This one from 34 yards.— Tyler Dunne (@TyDunne) August 18, 2013
Per NFL policy, we'll give you reactions to what's going on the field each quarter.
Coin flip time:
Packers pick tails...Packers will receive. Get the offense going.
Our Larry McCarren says the Packers' quarterback rotation will remain as it was last week - Rodgers, Harrell, Young, Coleman.
From Mike McCarthy's exclusive pregame interview with Wayne Larrivee:
"The overall team, you're looking for the development of a personality...want to see the leadership, see young guys step up, integrate with the veterans. Individually, we need a lot of guys to play better."
"Biggest thing for Eddie Lacy...see how he responds. Haven't seen him really go since the other night. Once he gets going, we'll play that by ear."
On Barclay vs. Newhouse at right tackle: "It's a competition...either Marshall or Don have to get a hold of it."
Gonna be a heavy, heavy Cheesehead presence tonight at the Jones Dome. SL is a baseball and soccer town.— Bob McGinn (@BobMcGinn) August 17, 2013
Soccer, Bob? St. Louis is not in MLS, and they didn't just join the Premier League.
Oh, and the mid-70's Packers are represented tonight.
Bart Starr's second-ever draft pick, RB Willard Harrell (D3, '75), is uniform inspector tonight. He also played for Cardinals in St. Louis.— Bob McGinn (@BobMcGinn) August 17, 2013
Notice who else is not on that list? Evan-Dietrich Smith.
The center will dress. How much he'll actually play? My guess - at most the same amount Aaron Rodgers plays.
The Packers say that Datone Jones will not play today.
Here's the full inactive list for Green Bay.
T Bryan Bulaga
WR Randall Cobb
WR Kevin Dorsey
RB DuJuan Harris
CB Casey Hayward
WR Charles Johnson
DE Datone Jones
WR Jordy Nelson
TE Andrew Quarless
S Sean Richardson
T Derek Sherrod
TE Ryan Taylor
T JC Tretter
DE Jerel Worthy
We thought this was probable...now, we know it's the case, according to the Journal Sentinel.
Well, this may be a good sign.
Jordy Nelson is out for the rest of the preseason following knee procedure but catching passes from Graham Harrell during warmups #Packers— Wes Hodkiewicz (@WesHod) August 17, 2013
Listen live NOW to Packers Gameday!
The Packers Radio Network's Jeff Falconio breaks down three keys for tonight's game.
What happens when the Packers take a road trip? We checked the Twitterverse to reveal the relaxation and hilarity to you.
Here's some examples:
An offensive lineman watching that other kind of football.
Watching some Premier League soccer— Andrew Datko (@AndrewDatko) August 17, 2013
Checking out a baseball palace near the site of tonight's football game:
Struggling to sleep.
Can't sleep right now...— Terrell Manning (@Certified_35) August 17, 2013
Trying on clothes.
@GVR64 is still trying to fit into a 2xl shirt.. Looks like 20lbs of pudding stuffed in a 10lb bag.— TJ Lang (@TJLang70) August 17, 2013
Watching their physique.
Saw @GVR64 eating a salad at dinner tonight.. Clearly has an identity crisis.— TJ Lang (@TJLang70) August 17, 2013
Somebody bring me a gas mask.. @jsitton71 is lighting up this hotel room.— TJ Lang (@TJLang70) August 17, 2013
The Green Bay Packers come into tonight's preseason game with 23 days to go before the regular season opener in San Francisco.
They have a lot to solve, a lot of healing to happen and a lot of decisions to make before then.
620WTMJ's Voice of the Packers, Wayne Larrivee, outlines many of those in his pregame primer.
Perhaps the biggest worry to solve on coach Mike McCarthy's mind is how to steer his team through a series of injuries which have hampered the preseason.
But one injured Packers player who will be healthy enough to see action is Eddie Lacy.
McCarthy is also trying to find out who will be his backup quarterbacks - otherwise known as the most important men in Wisconsin if Aaron Rodgers gets injured.
Will Vince Young develop quickly enough to be able to match his playoff-caliber effectiveness which he showed in Tennessee, or is the job still Graham Harrell's?
It will be his first time in a game situation for Lacy as a running back in a Packers uniform, and with great hopes for his development and a Packers running game which could unlock so many more offensive opportunities if it develops.
The kicking game becomes a major consideration for Mike McCarthy and company on Saturday, and for the first time, the coaches get to see Mason Crosby and Giorgio Tavecchio in game situations.
That's because, of course, they couldn't try any field goals and extra points in the 17-0 shutout loss to Arizona.
Now if both fail, the Packers may have a third option.
All these become major factors to think about in a season where the Packers hope to match expectations they've internally failed to reach in the last couple years.
Then, of course, there's been all the off-field tumult with the Aaron Rodgers-Donald Driver-Greg Jennings back-and-forth.
Somehow, I think part of Rodgers' higher ground today involved focusing a bit more on Eddie Lacy, the offensive line and the receivers who are healthy than on guys who are not on the roster anymore.
He expressed that Thursday. He and the Packers will live by it on Saturday.